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LynW
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:30:55 PM Quote
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Thursday 4 March – I visit my GP to discuss painful and badly swollen knees. He considers it is now time for a referral to orthopaedics for their consideration.

Friday 16 April – Only 6 weeks later I am sat in the Orthopaedic Surgeon’s room weighing up which knee is the worst. A difficult one as they have different problems; we decide on left because ... well it had to be one or the other! I am booked in for an arthroscopy with either a synovectomy or knee replacement depending on the findings of an MRI scan. Okay I say, although not too happy about knee replacement as wrist replacement simply doesn’t work! But leave it to them, they know what they are doing. Don’t they?

Wednesday 28 April – Pre –op.
“Why? Surely it is a bit soon when the earliest I’m likely to be called is end of August?”
“We like to have all the routine checks done in good time in case you are called early”.
Full medical history taken. We talk about neutropenia which has now cleared up thankfully. We discuss meds and what needs to be stopped and when prior to surgery. BP is checked. Heart trace is done. Swabs are taken for MRSA etc. Weight and height checked. Urine sample checked. An array of phials of blood taken for analysis. I ask about waiting list as I’m away in Cyprus for two weeks in August. No problem it will be end of August at the earliest. All done, so I just sit back and wait for my MRI scan.

Monday 17 May 6pm – MRI scan. I phone and explain that I have a meeting to go to at 7pm so I shall I re-arrange appointment/meeting? I am advised that I will be away from the department by 6.30pm so no problem. Good news. I arrive. I hand in letter. I sit down. I wait.
“Mrs Wilson we don’t seem to have you booked down on this evening’s list” Oh no here we go. Just when for once I thought things were running smoothly. I’m far too optimistic and hopeful that’s my problem.
“It seems your appointment was changed to Wednesday” “Shame nobody mentioned it to me then!”
They will do it as I am there but I will have to wait. Okay, I will have to be late for meeting, it can’t be helped. Scan finally done and I get away, 40 minutes late but heyho ...

Tuesday 18 May – Phone call from pre admissions.
“We don’t seem to be able to find your heart trace, did you have one done?”
“Yes, definitely. I can even remember the conversation I had with the nurse”
“Oh well I’m sorry but it’s something we must have on record so can you come back on Thursday?”

Thursday 20 May – Heart trace re-done by same nurse who remembered doing the first one!!

Left knee is now feeling better with an increase in Naproxen. However Neutropenia has returned with avengeance.

Friday 2 July – Letter arrives with admission for Thursday 15th July. “Oh no!”

Monday 5 July – See GP who advises surgery inappropriate due to neutropenia. Suggests I phone and tell them. I explain about holiday on 4 August and he says they won’t operate as infection risk too high. But also I should not be leaving country with current problems. Eek ... will have to find a way round this!
I phone hospital and after being transferred three times I finally reach someone who has an inkling of what I am talking about! Hmm .. will have to speak to surgeon and phone you back but neutrophils are very low, am I sure I’ve got it right?! Heaven’s above!

Tuesday 6 July – Phone call from hospital. That was quick! “Oh, you are not calling in response to my call?” “What? Swabs are lost?” “Yes I can come in, but no not right now!” I explain surgery might not be going ahead and they say when other person calls back I need to organise new swabs with them if I am coming in.

Wednesday 7 July – Phone call from hospital. Surgeon is going ahead as he feels architecture of knee requires attention and risk of infection low. Will attempt to treat as a day case so I don’t have to stay in hospital environment. I explain about swabs and no I can’t come in Thursday as I’ll be in Lincoln! Yes, will come in Friday 9th. But, explain about holiday and flying.
“We usually recommend you don’t fly within 6 weeks. How long will it be after surgery?”
“Three weeks!” “Well as long as you keep moving about on the plane and exercise the leg you should be okay.” “Not happy! ” “You will be fine, just don’t tell anyone!”

Friday 9 July – Hospital. Just take a seat Mrs Wilson. Twenty minutes later,
“You don’t appear to be on our list for today”. What a surprise! I’m no longer even slightly amazed by the inadequacies of this ridiculous ‘lack of a system’. After half an hour the nurse reappears and does swabs. Done!

Sunday 11 July - Thursday 15 July is fast approaching. What now? GP says I shouldn’t be going abroad with neutropenia. I can’t leave it at home, can I? I’m sure I’ll be okay as long as I’m vigilant and careful, no sea, no eating out, wash everything etc.

But what about the op.? That is cause for concern. I’m spending the weekend trying to pick up an infection so that by tomorrow I won’t be well enough to be admitted. No luck yet! If I refuse the op I come off the list. I’m already suffering from being off the Methotrexate and because of the op I stopped Enbrel 10 days ago. I woke up this morning unable to move. 2 x 250mg Naproxen and 3mg prednisolone does nothing for RA!! If they do a synovectomy I might just be okay but can’t restart Enbrel until everything’s healed. What about all the sorting of luggage for 4 men? All the stuff to get etc..??

After all the palaver of to’ing and fro’ing to the hospital I feel as though I’m in a real predicament and haven’t the foggiest idea what to do next!

Lyn x

My son, Ian, completed the BUPA Great North Run on 15th September running for the National Rheumatoid Arthritis Society (NRAS). You can read his story at http://www.justgiving.com/ianlukewilson

JulieM
#2 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:36:04 PM Quote
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#3 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:57:32 PM Quote
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Dear Lyn

Like Julie, I'm scratching my head here. What a predicament. Your diary of events is quite shocking. How on earth can you possibly know what to do after all the conflicting advice.

I am stunned that no-one is listening to you when you say you are worried about the effects of an op on the neutropenia? If you cancel this op, will you be taken off the list full stop - or can your name be put back on for when you are stronger?

I don't think any of us on the forum are qualified to give advice here - just maybe a little encouragement. If (and it's a big "if") you do have to have a knee replacement, I can honestly say, hand on heart, that it is the best thing I ever had done. The difference in pain levels before and after is phenominal.

I'll pray for you to make the right decisions and am here if you want to shout and rant!!

Love Jeanxxx

Kathleen_C
#4 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 3:03:25 PM Quote
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Gosh Lyn, what a calamitous series of events! I`ve no idea what would be the right/wrong thing to do, but I can`t believe the amount of conflicting advice you`ve been given.

Hoping you are able to come sort of decision that will have a good outcome.

Take care,

Kathleen x

LynW
#5 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 3:16:55 PM Quote
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Thanks guys!

I'm under the impression that he won't be doing a knee replacement because, seriously, they really would not let me come home the same day! So it's probably going to be a synovectomy which I have had before and don't remember having any significant problems with. My main worries are the risk of DVT from flying for 4+hours, the inability to be mobile on holiday and the worry of getting all the pre holiday jobs done by the 4th August.

If I refuse the operation I come off the list, even though I made it clear that I would be in Cyprus for two weeks in August (they probably didn't write it down!). If I come off the list because I'm unwell it will be deferred to a later date. I need an infection in the next few days if anyone can oblige!

Lyn x
My son, Ian, completed the BUPA Great North Run on 15th September running for the National Rheumatoid Arthritis Society (NRAS). You can read his story at http://www.justgiving.com/ianlukewilson

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#6 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:07:00 PM Quote
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Lyn, its just ridiculous that you are in this situation. Why cant they just understand that due to your booked holiday you need to have the op done at a later date? Why do you get taken off the list?? Its a ridiculous way to run things!! Its an odd thing to say, but I hope you get an infection!!!ThumbDown
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dorat
#7 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:55:04 PM Quote
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Oh Lyn, What a dilemma!
I can't help thinking that after all that, you will probably go in for your op and they "won't have you on the list!"Scared .
It's a no win situation for you because if they delay the op you have been off the drugs for so long already!
I hope you can sort something out and not miss out on your holiday. I think now is the time for the men to learn to do their own packing! What they don't pack they will have to do without.

I think your wand may come in handy!
Love, Doreen xx
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#8 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:16:08 PM Quote
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I totally agree with Doreen about the packing. The boys are now grown up and can sort out their own packing. You HAVE to look after yourself too.

Love Jeanxxx
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#9 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 7:02:24 PM Quote
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Dear lord, if you leave the packing to the men it will be one pair of undies and a pair of socks!

Sorry that you are having such difficulty and if i could send you my spots i would do!! Hope everything goes ok.

Liz
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What a dilemma ! i can relate to you as my knee replacement was cancelled 5 times over 9 months, i was able to get the rheumatoid consultant to ring the surgeon and tell him i was just not ready ( in my head) to have the op the 1st time, then surgeon cancelled 2nd time , 3rd time my son got chicken pox 2 days prior to the op so that was cancelled then 4th and 5th was the hospital cancelled, if your not sure then someone should listen to you Lyn, hope it can get sorted out,

Sophie x
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:20:46 PM Quote
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well, this is my opinion and I am sorry if it comes over as harsh.

Those boys are old enough and able enough to sort out their own packing.

If you are not well enough to cope with surgery you are not well enough to fly. You are in an enclosed tin box in the sky with 500 other people who breathe and leave their germs everywhere.

you will HAVE to walk about because of the raised DVT risk and this makes it more likely to get things.

If you get an infection (tummy bug for example) you will NOT BE COVERED to fly home if it is against your drs advice that you went on holiday. Medical costs will only be covered on the E111 and nothing more. PLus you are in trouble in a foreign land, with drs who dont get RA in England that is hard enough isnt it?

How much holiday are you going to have anyway if you cant go out/ eat/ drink/ go to the sea?

In my opinion you have to cancel that holiday, or get someone to go in your place. It is rotten and horrid and I wish it wasnt true but it is. I dont have to spell out how extremely dangerous getting ANY infection is with neutropenia, do I?

PLEASE PLEASE take great care whatever you do.

Jenni xx

PS there is no way that you should go to the bottom of any list and that is one for the consultants secretaries (who, although frosty do get things sorted out I find)
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jeanb
#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:28:32 PM Quote
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Have just had a chat to Lyn who IS going in tomorrow for whatever they decide to do to her knee. She has been told that if she doesn't go in, they will take her off the list full stop - ie. she can't go back on it again. What on earth are they thinking of?According to her latest blood tests the neutrophils have increased from 1.4 to 3.6 (apparently) but Lyn is very suspicious as she doesn't think they rise so quickly, especially as the mtx is still in her system.

She will text me when she gets a chance so that I can let you know how she is.

If anyone wants to send her a card, I have her address. Just e-mail and I'll send it.

Love Jeanxxxx
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Thanks Jean.
I would be suspicious about that blood result too, I wouldn't expect the neutrophils to rise so quickly.
That's dreadful that they will take her off the list if she doesn't go for the op.
What happens I wonder, if they cancel due to not having a bed, which could well happen yet.
Please give her my love Jean.

Love, Doreen xx

PS, will you e-mail me her address please?
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:16:35 PM Quote
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Oh, poor Lyn! What a situation to be in - between a rock and a very hard place. Very dodgy test result, methinks, though I`m not an expert.

Can you pass on my good wishes, Jean, and e-mail me her address? I`ll put a larger pair of scissors in with the card!!

Kathleen x

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Please could I have her address too Jean?
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